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Wednesday, March 21, 2012

move/copy database objects from SQL Server Express to SQL Server Standard?

Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
topic??

I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.

Thank you, TomHi Tom

If the objects are on source code control you may just want to check out the
scripts and run them through SQLCMD.

If you want the whole database then you can either use backup/restore or
sp_detach_db/sp_attach_db, failing that you could use the import/export
wizard, If SQLExpress is does not allow external connections then you will
need to push it (export) from the SQLExpress machine.

Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314546
John

"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.comwrote in message
news:1157561832.911996.148780@.b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
topic??
>
I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
>
Thank you, Tom
>

|||I should have said SS 2005 Developer, not Express, I am installing SS
2005 Dev to my workstation here.

But everything you said should work, I just have to learn how!!!!!!!!

I will read the KB article, I suppose I could learn SSIS for just
tables or queries etc., or even just re-create the queries on the SS
dev box.

Thanks a lot for answering!!

:) tom

John Bell wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Hi Tom
>
If the objects are on source code control you may just want to check out the
scripts and run them through SQLCMD.
>
If you want the whole database then you can either use backup/restore or
sp_detach_db/sp_attach_db, failing that you could use the import/export
wizard, If SQLExpress is does not allow external connections then you will
need to push it (export) from the SQLExpress machine.
>
Check out http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314546
>
John
>
>
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.comwrote in message
news:1157561832.911996.148780@.b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...

Quote:

Originally Posted by

Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
topic??

I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.

Thank you, Tom

|||tlyczko wrote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by

I should have said SS 2005 Developer, not Express, I am installing SS
2005 Dev to my workstation here.


I found this link, I can't remember where:

http://blogs.msdn.com/euanga/archiv.../18/668916.aspx
HTH tom

move/copy database items from SS 2005 Express to SS 2005 Standard?

Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
topic'
I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
Thank you, TomYou can:
1. Using SSMS, script out the code to re-create the table, views, queries,
etc.
2. Using SSIS, Transfer the entire database, schema and/or data
3. Pull your script files from source control, thereby making sure that
nothing is moved to the production server except items that 'should' be
moved to production. (You are using source control, aren't you?)
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc
Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157562224.879951.99990@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
> topic'
> I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
> locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
> tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
> Thank you, Tom
>|||I don't know anything yet about source control...do you mean Visual
SourceSafe'
I tried looking around a few months ago for decent documentation,
how-to, etc. about VSS 2005, and I didn't find anything, it was not
terribly intuitive either...
I don't always need to transfer the entire database either, I might
only have to transfer a query, for example.
Or I might have to refresh the tables in my dev workstation from the
main server...
Thank you,
Tom
Arnie Rowland wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> You can:
> 1. Using SSMS, script out the code to re-create the table, views, queries,
> etc.
> 2. Using SSIS, Transfer the entire database, schema and/or data
> 3. Pull your script files from source control, thereby making sure that
> nothing is moved to the production server except items that 'should' be
> moved to production. (You are using source control, aren't you?)
> --
> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
> Westwood Consulting, Inc
> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
> - Anonymous
>
> "tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157562224.879951.99990@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...|||Visual SourceSafe is but one of many source control products, albeit one
that is included with Visual Studio.
You might find part 4 of this tutorial useful for an introductory view of
Sourcesafe.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms167593.aspx
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc
Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157567635.523378.239270@.p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>I don't know anything yet about source control...do you mean Visual
> SourceSafe'
> I tried looking around a few months ago for decent documentation,
> how-to, etc. about VSS 2005, and I didn't find anything, it was not
> terribly intuitive either...
> I don't always need to transfer the entire database either, I might
> only have to transfer a query, for example.
> Or I might have to refresh the tables in my dev workstation from the
> main server...
> Thank you,
> Tom
> Arnie Rowland wrote:
>|||Visual SourceSafe didn't come with our Visual Studio...
Thank you for sending the link, I think I remember that Perforce makes
a single-user version that I could use...I'll check their website.
Thank you, Tom

> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
Agreed.
Thank you, Tom

move/copy database items from SS 2005 Express to SS 2005 Standard?

Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
topic'
I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
Thank you, TomYou can:
1. Using SSMS, script out the code to re-create the table, views, queries,
etc.
2. Using SSIS, Transfer the entire database, schema and/or data
3. Pull your script files from source control, thereby making sure that
nothing is moved to the production server except items that 'should' be
moved to production. (You are using source control, aren't you?)
--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc
Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157562224.879951.99990@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
> topic'
> I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
> locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
> tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
> Thank you, Tom
>|||I don't know anything yet about source control...do you mean Visual
SourceSafe'
I tried looking around a few months ago for decent documentation,
how-to, etc. about VSS 2005, and I didn't find anything, it was not
terribly intuitive either...
I don't always need to transfer the entire database either, I might
only have to transfer a query, for example.
Or I might have to refresh the tables in my dev workstation from the
main server...
Thank you,
Tom
Arnie Rowland wrote:
> You can:
> 1. Using SSMS, script out the code to re-create the table, views, queries,
> etc.
> 2. Using SSIS, Transfer the entire database, schema and/or data
> 3. Pull your script files from source control, thereby making sure that
> nothing is moved to the production server except items that 'should' be
> moved to production. (You are using source control, aren't you?)
> --
> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
> Westwood Consulting, Inc
> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
> - Anonymous
>
> "tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1157562224.879951.99990@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
> > Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
> > topic'
> >
> > I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
> > locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
> > tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
> >
> > Thank you, Tom
> >|||Visual SourceSafe is but one of many source control products, albeit one
that is included with Visual Studio.
You might find part 4 of this tutorial useful for an introductory view of
Sourcesafe.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms167593.aspx
--
Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
Westwood Consulting, Inc
Most good judgment comes from experience.
Most experience comes from bad judgment.
- Anonymous
"tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157567635.523378.239270@.p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
>I don't know anything yet about source control...do you mean Visual
> SourceSafe'
> I tried looking around a few months ago for decent documentation,
> how-to, etc. about VSS 2005, and I didn't find anything, it was not
> terribly intuitive either...
> I don't always need to transfer the entire database either, I might
> only have to transfer a query, for example.
> Or I might have to refresh the tables in my dev workstation from the
> main server...
> Thank you,
> Tom
> Arnie Rowland wrote:
>> You can:
>> 1. Using SSMS, script out the code to re-create the table, views,
>> queries,
>> etc.
>> 2. Using SSIS, Transfer the entire database, schema and/or data
>> 3. Pull your script files from source control, thereby making sure that
>> nothing is moved to the production server except items that 'should' be
>> moved to production. (You are using source control, aren't you?)
>> --
>> Arnie Rowland, Ph.D.
>> Westwood Consulting, Inc
>> Most good judgment comes from experience.
>> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
>> - Anonymous
>>
>> "tlyczko" <tlyczko@.gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1157562224.879951.99990@.e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com...
>> > Can anyone refer me to good 'recipes' or sources of information on this
>> > topic'
>> >
>> > I have Visual Studio Tools for Office, which installs SS 2005 Express
>> > locally to my XP box, and I want to develop in SS 2005, then copy the
>> > tables or queries or reports etc. to a SS 2005 Standard server.
>> >
>> > Thank you, Tom
>> >
>|||Visual SourceSafe didn't come with our Visual Studio...
Thank you for sending the link, I think I remember that Perforce makes
a single-user version that I could use...I'll check their website.
Thank you, Tom
> Most good judgment comes from experience.
> Most experience comes from bad judgment.
Agreed.
Thank you, Tom

Move Tables From Local to Hosting Provider's Server

I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that may
help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving tables and
other assets to the hosting provider's server.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use QALite
to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database via QA and
execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
HTH, Jens Smeyer.
"clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that
>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>
|||Thanks for your comments Jens.
I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my database
on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
the hosting provider makes available.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
"Jens Smeyer" <Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserver2005.de> wrote in
message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use
> QALite to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database
> via QA and execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
> HTH, Jens Smeyer.
>
> "clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
> news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
|||To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
providers often don′t offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
"clintonG" wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Jens.
> I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my database
> on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
> the hosting provider makes available.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> "Jens Sü?meyer" <Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserver2005.de> wrote in
> message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>
|||Is this [1] what you're refrring to? Why would I not just use Enterprise
Manager?
I agree the tools with web interface can be less capable than desktop tools
but -- at the moment -- I don't even have a clue what tasks I need to
consider to move the tables to the hosting provider server. Its not like FTP
where I can just upload files I guess is it? :-( and its not like I don't
have the interest or the skills to learn but I need to learn what to do
before I decide what tools are best to do it that's why I've been asking for
referrals to tutorials.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
[1] http://www.rac4sql.net/qalite_main.asp
"Jens Smeyer" <Jens@.[Remove_that][for contacting me]sqlserver2005.de>
wrote in message news:E198A5D7-46A2-489C-BB03-E8E7ECF18625@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
> providers often dont offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
> rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
> --
> HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
> --
> http://www.sqlserver2005.de
> --
>
> "clintonG" wrote:

Move Tables From Local to Hosting Provider's Server

I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that may
help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving tables and
other assets to the hosting provider's server.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use QALite
to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database via QA and
execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
HTH, Jens Smeyer.
"clintonG" < csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee
.com> wrote in message
news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that
>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>|||Thanks for your comments Jens.
I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my database
on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
the hosting provider makes available.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
"Jens Smeyer" < Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserve
r2005.de> wrote in
message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use
> QALite to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database
> via QA and execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
> HTH, Jens Smeyer.
>
> "clintonG" < csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee
.com> wrote in message
> news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>|||To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
providers often don′t offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--
"clintonG" wrote:

> Thanks for your comments Jens.
> I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my databas
e
> on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
> the hosting provider makes available.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> "Jens Sü?meyer" < Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserve
r2005.de> wrote
in
> message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>
>|||Is this [1] what you're refrring to? Why would I not just use Enterprise
Manager?
I agree the tools with web interface can be less capable than desktop tools
but -- at the moment -- I don't even have a clue what tasks I need to
consider to move the tables to the hosting provider server. Its not like FTP
where I can just upload files I guess is it? :-( and its not like I don't
have the interest or the skills to learn but I need to learn what to do
before I decide what tools are best to do it that's why I've been asking for
referrals to tutorials.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
[1] http://www.rac4sql.net/qalite_main.asp
"Jens Smeyer" <Jens@.[Remove_that][for contacting me]sqlserver2005.
de>
wrote in message news:E198A5D7-46A2-489C-BB03-E8E7ECF18625@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
> providers often dont offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
> rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
> --
> HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
> --
> http://www.sqlserver2005.de
> --
>
> "clintonG" wrote:
>sql

Move Tables From Local to Hosting Provider's Server

I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that may
help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving tables and
other assets to the hosting provider's server.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use QALite
to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database via QA and
execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
HTH, Jens Süßmeyer.
"clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that
>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>|||Thanks for your comments Jens.
I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my database
on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
the hosting provider makes available.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
"Jens Süßmeyer" <Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserver2005.de> wrote in
message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use
> QALite to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database
> via QA and execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
> HTH, Jens Süßmeyer.
>
> "clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
> news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that
>>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
>>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>>
>|||To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
providers often don´t offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
--
HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
--
http://www.sqlserver2005.de
--
"clintonG" wrote:
> Thanks for your comments Jens.
> I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my database
> on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web interface
> the hosting provider makes available.
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> "Jens Sü�meyer" <Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserver2005.de> wrote in
> message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use
> > QALite to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database
> > via QA and execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
> >
> > HTH, Jens Sü�meyer.
> >
> >
> > "clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in message
> > news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials that
> >>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
> >>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
> >>
> >> <%= Clinton Gallagher
> >> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
> >> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
> >> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
> >> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>|||Is this [1] what you're refrring to? Why would I not just use Enterprise
Manager?
I agree the tools with web interface can be less capable than desktop tools
but -- at the moment -- I don't even have a clue what tasks I need to
consider to move the tables to the hosting provider server. Its not like FTP
where I can just upload files I guess is it? :-( and its not like I don't
have the interest or the skills to learn but I need to learn what to do
before I decide what tools are best to do it that's why I've been asking for
referrals to tutorials.
<%= Clinton Gallagher
[1] http://www.rac4sql.net/qalite_main.asp
"Jens Süßmeyer" <Jens@.[Remove_that][for contacting me]sqlserver2005.de>
wrote in message news:E198A5D7-46A2-489C-BB03-E8E7ECF18625@.microsoft.com...
> To be honest, to me these tools really suck. The WebTools provided by the
> providers often don´t offer all the capabilities that I need, so I used to
> rely on the standard tools like EM and QA, they are the best.
> --
> HTH, Jens Suessmeyer.
> --
> http://www.sqlserver2005.de
> --
>
> "clintonG" wrote:
>> Thanks for your comments Jens.
>> I can evaluate the same tool you are using but I can connect to my
>> database
>> on the hosted site using Enterprise Manager or a tool with a web
>> interface
>> the hosting provider makes available.
>> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> "Jens Süßmeyer" <Jens@.remove_this_for_contacting_sqlserver2005.de> wrote
>> in
>> message news:%23dFQ7WArFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > Due to the limitations for access to the providers SQl Servers I use
>> > QALite to script data from my tables and connect to the remote database
>> > via QA and execute the scripts, thats the best way for me.
>> >
>> > HTH, Jens Süßmeyer.
>> >
>> >
>> > "clintonG" <csgallagher@.REMOVETHISTEXTmetromilwaukee.com> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:OQjsao$qFHA.1788@.tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> >>I know about BOL. Please take a moment to refer me to any tutorials
>> >>that
>> >>may help me to learn the basics as well as the finer points of moving
>> >>tables and other assets to the hosting provider's server.
>> >>
>> >> <%= Clinton Gallagher
>> >> METROmilwaukee (sm) "A Regional Information Service"
>> >> NET csgallagher AT metromilwaukee.com
>> >> URL http://metromilwaukee.com/
>> >> URL http://clintongallagher.metromilwaukee.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>