Showing posts with label recovery. Show all posts
Showing posts with label recovery. Show all posts

Monday, March 19, 2012

Move SQL server to SQL server 2005 Express

I'm new in Express Edition.

We use SQL 2000 on our SBS2003.

For disaster recovery I installed SQL Express on a laptop.

How can I move database and application from SQL 2000 to

Eexpress edition?

Many thanks

Peter

One of the easy ways is to just do a backup and recovery, but I would also look at the upgrade adviser and make sure that the application can be upgraded. If you are doing the sharpoint databases from sbs you can use the sql express install system to upgrade the instance.

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Glenn.

Did you mean use SQL server 2000 backup utility to backup all Dbs then setup Express Edition, then use its recovery to restore

Dbs? One of my friend suggested just copy all .MDF and .LDF files, then use SQL server Management Studio Express to link them.

We don't use Sharepoint database.

Thank you for your attention.

Welcome your further advise.

Peter

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Hi Peter,

Yes, you can backup using SQL 2000 and then restore using SQL Express just as you suggest. You can also just copy your MDF/LDF files into the Data directory for SQL Express and then use Management Studio to Attach those files.

In either case, the resulting database file in SQL Express can not be moved back to SQL 2000, the file formats are not compatible.

Mike

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Hi Mike,

Thank you for your advice.It’s important to know “the resulting database file in SQL Express can not be moved back to SQL 2000, the file formats are not compatible.”

My project is for disaster recovery, in case of SBS2003, SQL 2000 running on it, down.

I have to restore database after SQL 2000 server comes back online.It looks like I can’t use SQL Express as backup.

Can I use MSDE? I think its data file format is same to SQL 2000. If it can, could you please let me know how to do that? Do we still need Management Studio to attach database?

Many thanks

Peter

Friday, March 9, 2012

Move large amounts of data across Data Centers for DR

As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes of
data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
backup files for eg: on the network.
We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
FedEx is your friend.
Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
"Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
> DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
> how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes
> of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
> backup files for eg: on the network.
> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>
|||Can I say DHL ;-)
What I do if the database files are quite big is run a full and transaction
log backup and store it in a backup device. Compress the backup before
sending it over the network using ROBOCOPY. When you configure log
shipping, restore the full and transaction log backups on the DR site and
use an existing database in your option. When it's bigger than 5GB over a
4MBps network, then I would recommend courier
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
|||Overnighting an external drive is indeed best way to go, imho.
BE SURE TO ENCRYPT THE DATA!!! I would hate to read about yet another
company losing sensitive data! :-0
TheSQLGuru
President
Indicium Resources, Inc.
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>

Move large amounts of data across Data Centers for DR

As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes of
data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
backup files for eg: on the network.
We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?FedEx is your friend.
Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
--
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
"Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
> DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
> how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes
> of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
> backup files for eg: on the network.
> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>|||Can I say DHL ;-)
What I do if the database files are quite big is run a full and transaction
log backup and store it in a backup device. Compress the backup before
sending it over the network using ROBOCOPY. When you configure log
shipping, restore the full and transaction log backups on the DR site and
use an existing database in your option. When it's bigger than 5GB over a
4MBps network, then I would recommend courier :)
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say
>> in DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the
>> continent, how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be
>> Terrabytes of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long
>> to move this backup files for eg: on the network.
>> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
>> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
>> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>|||Overnighting an external drive is indeed best way to go, imho.
BE SURE TO ENCRYPT THE DATA!!! I would hate to read about yet another
company losing sensitive data! :-0
--
TheSQLGuru
President
Indicium Resources, Inc.
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say
>> in DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the
>> continent, how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be
>> Terrabytes of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long
>> to move this backup files for eg: on the network.
>> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
>> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
>> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>

Move large amounts of data across Data Centers for DR

As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes of
data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
backup files for eg: on the network.
We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
FedEx is your friend.
Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
"Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
> DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
> how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes
> of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
> backup files for eg: on the network.
> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>
|||Can I say DHL ;-)
What I do if the database files are quite big is run a full and transaction
log backup and store it in a backup device. Compress the backup before
sending it over the network using ROBOCOPY. When you configure log
shipping, restore the full and transaction log backups on the DR site and
use an existing database in your option. When it's bigger than 5GB over a
4MBps network, then I would recommend courier
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>
|||Overnighting an external drive is indeed best way to go, imho.
BE SURE TO ENCRYPT THE DATA!!! I would hate to read about yet another
company losing sensitive data! :-0
TheSQLGuru
President
Indicium Resources, Inc.
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>

Move large amounts of data across Data Centers for DR

As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes of
data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
backup files for eg: on the network.
We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?FedEx is your friend.
Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
Geoff N. Hiten
Senior Database Administrator
Microsoft SQL Server MVP
"Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> As you set up disaster recovery(DR)of your existing production data say in
> DataCenter 1 to your DR site that may on the other side of the continent,
> how do you move all the data acorss the first time? It may be Terrabytes
> of data or for that matter even 100s of GBs. It takes so long to move this
> backup files for eg: on the network.
> We intend to use Log shipping once the backups are restored, but moving
> those initial full database backup files is a nightmare.
> Can you share how you move your initial data set across ?
>|||Can I say DHL ;-)
What I do if the database files are quite big is run a full and transaction
log backup and store it in a backup device. Compress the backup before
sending it over the network using ROBOCOPY. When you configure log
shipping, restore the full and transaction log backups on the DR site and
use an existing database in your option. When it's bigger than 5GB over a
4MBps network, then I would recommend courier
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>|||Overnighting an external drive is indeed best way to go, imho.
BE SURE TO ENCRYPT THE DATA!!! I would hate to read about yet another
company losing sensitive data! :-0
TheSQLGuru
President
Indicium Resources, Inc.
"Geoff N. Hiten" <SQLCraftsman@.gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OlPBX4YwHHA.4640@.TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> FedEx is your friend.
> Removable USB disk drives and overnight shipping are still the fastest way
> to get very large data sets initialized from one site to another.
> --
> Geoff N. Hiten
> Senior Database Administrator
> Microsoft SQL Server MVP
>
>
> "Hassan" <hassan@.hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:OejIIuYwHHA.4916@.TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>